Ep.104 Trump and Putin - the Bromance reignited: with Sir Bill Browder


In this episode Jason Pack and Sir Bill Browder as they explore the transactional nature of Trump 2.0 and analyse the implications of the Ukraine mineral deal.

Jason Pack and Sir Bill Browder discuss the transactional aspects of Trump 2.0, aiming to determine whether the recently announced mineral deal with Ukraine holds any substantial value. Browder highlights the uncertainty surrounding the situation and the ethical considerations related to Trump's suggested reversal of policy.

Jason’s substack on the the Oval Office Trump/Vance ambush of Zelenskyy

Listen to a podcast produced out of Kyiv and dedicated just to the War in Ukraine

Watch Bloomberg Editor Javier Blas on the fact that Ukraine doesn’t have any significant rare earths

Read the FT explainer of the US-Ukraine Mineral deal

Listen to our previous episode with Sir Bill Browder

Read Sir Bill’s piece calling for Russian asset seizure and his article co-authored with a leading Ukranian lawyer, Yulia Ziskina calling for seizure of Russia’s state assets

Watch 'United States has ‘abandoned Ukraine’ by Bill Browder

For more on illicit funds and foreign interference, listen to our recent episode with Peter Geoghegan

Part 1 of our discussion with Tom Burgis on the issue of UK’s permissiveness over foreign political financing and Part 2 of Tom Burgis episode

Disorder Podcast Live: Europe’s Role in the Battle for an Orderly World

We invite RUSI Members to join us on 11 March for a live recording of the Disorder podcast and put questions to host Jason Pack, Disorder’s co-hosts and RUSI Director of International Security Neil Melvin as they discuss the international order and Europe’s role in the battle for an ‘orderly world’.


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RUSI Associate Fellow; Host of the Disorder Podcast

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